SCD-list October 1997 SCD-list Tue, 21 Oct 1997 Volume 1 : Number 76 In this issue: Re: Almond Nut Flour Intolerance Your Father Re: Incidence of colds / flu Re: Incidence of colds / flu Re: Food combining and SCD (final?)-not Enzymes Re: shaky feeling Re: Incidence of colds / flu Re: Psyllium Incidence of flus / colds among people with IBD on this list DRY CURD CHEESE Re: psyllium need recipes food combining Food intolerance Day Three Results Re: Day Three Results Re: Day Three Results Re: Encourage me if you will.....2 Re: need recipes Re: shaky feeling Grain Mill Re: fruit and protein Re: psyllium Re: need recipes Re: Food intolerance Re: Day Three Results SPEECH!!! Re: fruit and protein equalactin Re: need recipes yogurt RE: Equalactin Re: Food combining and SCD (final?)-not RE: Food intolerance RE: Day Three Results RE: Equalactin RE: need recipes RE: Equalactin Liz -------------------------------------------------------------------- SCD MAILING LIST ------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 17:15:46 -0700 From: "Glenn L. Rung" <backpack@cyberlynk.com> To: <SCD-list@longisland.com> Subject: Re: Almond Nut Flour Intolerance Message-ID: <01bcddb6$7a3f81e0$303b36ce@backpack> Liz, Thanks for your input. Glenn -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth Liener <exuliz@exu.ericsson.se> To: SCD-list@longisland.com <SCD-list@longisland.com> Date: Monday, October 20, 1997 11:04 AM Subject: Re: Almond Nut Flour Intolerance >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >SCD MAILING LIST >------------------------------------------------------------------- > >This may be tied to something called "Leaky Gut Syndrome". I don't >know the science behind this theory, but it's something like since >our GI tract is not digesting foods properly and the tract is >ulcerated, some food molecules are passing through into the blood >and are then identified as "invaders" or "foreign objects" by our >immune system. We then develop anti-bodies to the food. This happens >mainly with foods we ingest on a daily basis. > >This might explain why people suddenly become intolerant to foods >they could previously tolerate fine. Many people recommend a 4-day rotation >diet so that we don't eat the same food any more than every 4th >day so we don't develop allergies to them. I would guess that anyone >on SCD is eating nut flour products on a daily basis if they're >tolerated. > >Regards/Liz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 17:39:45 -0700 From: "Glenn L. Rung" <backpack@cyberlynk.com> To: <SCD-list@longisland.com> Subject: Your Father Message-ID: <01bcddb9$d40de560$303b36ce@backpack> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01BCDD7F.27AF0D60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Simone, Just a quick response about what I said about your father. I was in no = way implying that you should see him again. What I was really getting at = was that in your own way you need to love him as God loves all of us. = You can still love him yet never see or talk to him again. This is what = sets you free to move on with other issues in your life. By what you = said in your last message, it sounds like you have done this in that you = have put yourself in a place of peace with regard to this issue. That's = the type of letting go that I was talking about. I'm sorry that he treated you so miserable. It seems to me that you are = quite a unique and special person. I figure that your father lost out on = a great opportunity to learn about your invaluable insights in regard to = life in general. Keep the faith, you're doing great. Talk to again at the end of the = week. Glenn ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01BCDD7F.27AF0D60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.71.1712.3"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Simone,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Just a quick response about what I = said about=20 your father. I was in no way implying that you should see him again. = What I was=20 really getting at was that in your own way you need to love him as God = loves all=20 of us. You can still love him yet never see or talk to him again. This = is what=20 sets you free to move on <FONT color=3D#000000>with </FONT>other issues = in your=20 life. By what you said in your last message, it sounds like you have = done this=20 in that you have put yourself in a place of peace with regard to this = issue.=20 That's the type of letting go that I was talking about.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I'm sorry that he treated you so = miserable. It=20 seems to me that you are quite a unique and special person. I figure = that your=20 father lost out on a great opportunity to learn about your invaluable = insights=20 in regard to life in general.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Keep the faith, you're doing great. = Talk to=20 again at the end of the week.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Glenn</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01BCDD7F.27AF0D60-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 19:54:16 -0400 From: John Chalmers <johnc@serv2.fwi.com> To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: Re: Incidence of colds / flu Message-ID: <344BEF28.4385@mail.fwi.com> Prateeksha, I to have experienced having minimal colds and flu over the years. I have had times when all of my family would get something and it would miss me. The relationship of bowel disease is certainly up for speculation. For discussion purposes I will give you my thoughts. Some of the major treatments for bowel disease involve supression of the immune system. These include immuran and 6MP. These treatments are not totally satisfactory. One man in our support group found 6MP to be very effective for about 2 years after which it became totally ineffective. Some people try it and it has no effect. The results I have seen are mixed at best. Which do you suppose comes first, bowel disease and then a change in activity of the immune system or a change in activity of the immune system which leads to bowel disease? Remember, to have a cure, something is needed which addresses cause. I hypothesize that the bowel disease comes first. The immune system swings into action to bring the body back to normal. This change in activity results in some of the peculiar symptoms we get. If we speculate that the SCD is going after causitive factors then problems relating to the immune system should clear up on their own. While I do not get colds/flu, I do have a long history of getting hay fever symptoms from spring 'til frost. When I changed my foods, this started to clear up. I am to the point now that I no longer ever take antihistamines. I believe that my own immune system is now more able to deal with environmental factors than before as less of my immune system is dealing with the bowel disease. The relationship of bowel disease and the immune system is demonstrated by the peak outbreak of flares that occur in the spring and fall hay fever season. I'll never forget the story (our local support group) when a woman told the group that her husband had been hospitilized 4 consecutive years in the month of August. She thought that was quite a coincidence. The probability of that happening by chance is 1 in 20,736. John Prateeksha Bogardus wrote: > Hi everyone! > > When I went to my first (and last) meeting of the C&CFA local chapter this > subject came up and one of the men present who has (Chrons) said that > people with Chrons and Colitis have over-active immune systems!!!! and that > is the reason "we" don't get flus or colds. We all (about 9 of us) were > talking about we never get flus or colds. > > Just wanted to pass this on...have not heard this (over-active immune > system affliction) from any other source. > > Anyone else hear of this? > > Prateeksha. > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 18:57:05 -0700 From: painsolv@smartt.com To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: Re: Incidence of colds / flu Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19971020185705.00685678@smartt.com> Dear Jane: Yes, it does seem like "We IBD'ers have been given so much on our plates, that I gues the big guys in the sky have decided 'enough already! We'll spare (most of) them colds & flu!". Results of the survey will be sent to the group when collated ... lots of you are responding, it seems to have hit a nerve! Stay posted... Dietmar At 01:30 PM 10/19/97 -0400, you wrote: >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >SCD MAILING LIST >------------------------------------------------------------------- >I have 5 kids and volunteer at school and get FEWER colds and flu than most >people. I can take care of them when they have the flu and not get it, >though once in a "blue moon" I will. One particularly bad season when most >of the people in my house were sick and I wasn't, I thought of myself as >"Typhoid Mary" - one who carries and illness but never gets it! Watch us all >get the flu this season and we can blame it on getting healthy! Another >thought. You know the saying "God gives no man a cross he can't bear", well >he spares us because we already have enough to handle. Take care, Jane P.S. >interesting survey. > > ~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ D. Hartl RMT Specialist in: Orthopaedic Assessment - Tactile Therapies - Pain Solutions White Rock, British Columbia ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 22:25:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Kebridan@aol.com To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: Re: Food combining and SCD (final?)-not Message-ID: <971020170648_339898225@emout12.mail.aol.com> Liz, Sounds like the most constant thing you are eating is nut bread, so I would be very suspect of that. Personally speaking, and I have candida, I don't worry about the honey or fruit and eat much less nut bread (one a day). If I were you I would go on a real "easy to the system diet" ie. Chicken soup, gelatin etc. and start reintroducing slowing everything but the nut bread. I know its hard, but I bet you probably will be able to have nut bread again, just not 3 times a day. Did you see the mail that mentioned a similiar problem and the rotation diet was a good approach to take where you have the same food only once in 4 days. Don't give up, just redo your meal planning and concentrate on protein, fats, soft fruits and veggies - give up the nuts (for a while). Keep us posted. Take care, Jane ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 19:35:31 -0700 From: Mary <moira@megamed.com> To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: Enzymes Message-ID: <2.2.16.19971020193336.2ca70ea2@megamed.com> Can you take enzymes on this diet? Also, the vitamins I give my son are from Whole Foods health food store, they say no starch, hypoallergnenic, etc, are these ok? Or do you have to buy the Freeda vitamins? Also, he seems constipated, has not had a bowel movement since starting the diet. Is this common when you start the diet? Elaine said not to worry about the candida, it will go away with diet. Yet, I still worry. Has anyone conquered candida with this diet? Thanks, Moira ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 21:15:57 -0600 From: "William Laing" <wlaing@telusplanet.net> To: <SCD-list@longisland.com> Subject: Re: shaky feeling Message-ID: <01bcddcf$a62f0780$LocalHost@default> ----Original Message----- From: Linda To: SCD-list@longisland.com <SCD-list@longisland.com> Date: Monday, October 20, 1997 10:19 AM Subject: Re: shaky feeling > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >SCD MAILING LIST >------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > >Even before I started the diet, having hypoglycemia, or low blood sugar, I >would get >"the shakes" when my blood sugar fell too low between meals. > >When I first started the diet I would feel very faint (especially going up >a flight of stairs) >and a bit shaky, similar to low blood sugar shakes. I called my >nutritionist and he advised >me to eat more protein. He said I can have 5 servings a day of protein on >this diet. > >So if I get shaky and/or faint, I snack on something like peanut butter or >cheese. > >I don't eat just 3 meals a day. After 8 hours of sleep at night, the blood >sugar gets real low so >I have a good breakfast with plenty of protein, a two-egg cheese omelet and >a zucchini muffin from >Elaine's book or toast made from almond nut flour with honey or apple >butter. Between breakfast and >lunch I snack on peanut butter and between lunch and dinner I usually try >to have a piece of fruit and >some cheese or something. It's the long stretch between dinner and >breakfast that I haven't worked >out a solution for so mornings are the hardest. > >This is my experience....hope it is useful to you somehow. > >Regards, >Linda > Hello Linda and all on the List: Hypoglycaemia, or as we now know it is a Low Blood Sugar condition Linda you touched on a subject dear to my heart. I have lived most of my long life with this condition. Only learned in the past fifteen years why I had such wide mood swings, with some days barely being able to raise my head long enough to growl at any and everyone. A total lack of energy with complete exhaustion, yet the next day I might feel I could walk on water, h aving bountless energy. Sugar can lift me to the highest degree of euphoria imaginable, followed by a devastating low. I have been on the scd for near five years now and find I must be careful to include some sugars ( not refined) in my day to day meals. To combat the hypoglycaemia , a reasonable sugar level must be maintained. Somewhere during the day I will eat the following foods for just that reason.-------------------------------------------------------------- >feel shaky. Is that normal? Two or three cooking dates with some nuts for a quick pickup, and or a apple that is sweet. Raw cleaned carrots are sweet. As well (if you can eat them) sweet spanish onions fried in some olive oil are very sweet or even raw. Most all fruit will give you a blood sugar lift. Three or four sweet grapes will help. These foods should be spread out during the day and not try to make a meal only of them. I fortunately can eat large amounts of raw apples oranges and rip bannanas. In the early stages of the diet I woul;d not advice fruit juices, unless it is made by yourself. The rule being Donot Trust Labels. > > Hope this may be of help to someone. Good health William > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 23:48:16 -0400 (EDT) From: KevandDee@aol.com To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: Re: Incidence of colds / flu Message-ID: <971020222911_-1494710548@emout17.mail.aol.com> Prateeksha: Yes, as a matter of fact, I've been told this by my doctor several times and have read it in several medical manuals. This is the reason doctors prescribe immunosuppressant drugs such as Immuran/MP-6, etc. From what I understand, the docs leave these drugs until last, after prednisone and other treatments, as they can reap havoc on your immune system. Deanna ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 00:02:12 -0400 (EDT) From: PI5DA@aol.com To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: Re: Psyllium Message-ID: <971020220009_1499868461@emout15.mail.aol.com> From: "Tom Cattrall" <tomc@pnn.com> To: "SCD-list@longisland.com" <SCD-list@longisland.com> Subject: Re: psyllium Message-ID: <199710201752.KAA08498@pnn.com> >>>Tom, >>>No, I never had bowel surgery. I have only known I have CD for a couple of weeks, although I suspect I had it for at least 2 years. My upper GI and small bowel came up clean a few months ago. The CD is only in my large intestine (several places). >>>Do you think I could use Questran anyway? Or do I have to have small intestine CD to benefit from it? I am seeing my doctor in 2 weeks. He usually suggests Metamusil, but I have been using straight psyllium. >>>Any imput? >>>Simone Simone, Have you had small bowel problems or a small bowel resection? The last part of the small bowel absorbs vitamin B12 (so shots are required) but also reabsorbs bile salts so that they can be recycled. The problem is that without that portion of the small bowel, the bile salts go right on into the large intestine and cause diarrhea. I recently had my 2nd resection (first was 30 years ago) and the D just wasn't going away. My doctor prescribed Questran which binds up the bile salts so that they aren't active when they get into the large intestine. Wow! What a difference. Psyllium had helped only a little, but the Questran fixed things right up. Have only been on it for a few days and am still working on what dosage I need, but it looks like a modest amount in the evening is all I need. Tom ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 21:53:07 -0700 From: painsolv@smartt.com To: SCD@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU, scd-list@longisland.com Subject: Incidence of flus / colds among people with IBD on this list Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19971020215307.006c9364@smartt.com> Hi, gals & guys: There was a good response to my question about this topic, so first off, "Thanks" for participating! And as your "reward", here are the results: Of 9 people who replied ... - 7 reported having notably fewer colds / flus than the other people in their environment; in addition, <prateeksha@infoasis.com> stated that at a recent CCFA mtg she had asked the same question, and 9 of the people present remarked that they had also noted this surprising finding in their own lives. - 1 reported having more - 1 was undecided Additional findings / thoughts that were contributed: - because IBD appears to increase the activity of the immune system, this could be one reason why IBD sufferers get fewer colds / flus - colds / flus increased for those people who were / had recently been on immunosuppressive drugs (e.g. prednisone) So overall there APPEARS to be a clear indication that people who have IBD are likely to have much fewer colds or flus. Interesting. Let's file it away "in the back of our minds" for future reference ... maybe there's a genius in our midst or just lurking who will one day make all the pieces fit?! "Thank you" for participating. Dietmar ~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ D. Hartl RMT Specialist in: Orthopaedic Assessment - Tactile Therapies - Pain Solutions White Rock, British Columbia ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 04:09:09 -0400 (EDT) From: BMO111@aol.com To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: DRY CURD CHEESE Message-ID: <971021000111_339965932@emout11.mail.aol.com> FOUND A NEW PRODUCT IN NEW YORK :called made in USA.... COUNTRY FARMS DAIRY DRY FARMERS and another product called HOOP CHEESE by the same manufacturer. telephone number on label. 914 6329656 call company or take into stores you shop at to get it in..ABSOLUTELY delicious they also told me when i called they have a POT cheese as well low on lactose ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 04:25:32 -0400 (EDT) From: BCohen7014@aol.com To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: Re: psyllium Message-ID: <971021001726_-2011723840@emout14.mail.aol.com> Simone, I am not exactly sure how long of a time frame it took for my D to subside once I started taking the psyllium capsules. I my memory serves me right, I first started with the psyllium a few weeks before I started the SCD (I wasn't aware of the SCD Diet) and I wasn't eating any wheat, but I was eating rice. I still had some D, but it was a great improvement. Now that I am using both, (psyllium & SCD) I don't have a problem with D at all! I take 2 capsules 2x/day with a meal along with other vitamin and mineral supplements. I also take Pentasa (4 3x/day) I cut myself back from taking the Pentasa 4 4x/day and so far things are working great! The psyllium I take is from "Nature's Sunshine" and the bottle says, "Plantago psyllium - 600 mg (9.22 grains) each." I am not sure what qty. of the powder is equal to one capsule. I hope I've helped you on this one. JoEllen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 08:26:20 -0400 (EDT) From: T G <guarastr@mcmaster.ca> To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: need recipes Message-ID: <m0xNdO8-003KfrC@iaw.on.ca> Hi everyone, I just recently tried the lasagna recipe that Elaine has in her book and it didn't really turn out that well. It was runny and kind of bland. I was just wondering if anyone else has tried it with more success or it anyone has a better recipe that I could try. Also, I'm looking for ways to cook spaghetti squash other than with tomato sauce. Sometimes I can get 4 or 5 servings from one squash and living by myself I find that eating spaghetti squash with tomato sauce every night before the squash has a chance to go bad can get kind of boring. Thanks, Tina ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 08:26:18 -0400 (EDT) From: T G <guarastr@mcmaster.ca> To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: food combining Message-ID: <m0xNdO6-003KfqC@iaw.on.ca> I've read a lot on this list about food combining lately and I must admit I am getting confused, just like I did while reading the book Fit for Life. Food does need an optimal pH in order for the digestive enzymes that act on it to work properly, but the body takes care of that on it's own. The stomach is acidic and optimal for the digestion of proteins but then when the partially digested food leaves the stomach and enters the small intestine, the pH is neutralized and brought to the ideal level for the enzymes that break down carbohydrates to work. Fat is also digested in the small intestines with the help of bile and fat digesting enzymes. So why do we need to worry about eating certain foods in combination when nature has already taken care of that for us? And would fruit really petrify just because it's sitting in the stomach not being digested, wouldn't something else be required for it to go bad that quickly? Also, I read that when you eat raw fruits and vegetables, they actually contain, in the food themselves, enzymes that will digest them. These are just a few problems that I had when I read the book. I don't know if I'm way off base here. Does anyone have any comments? Also, the talk about how fast things move through our digestive system. I think that a big part of that is how long they need to remain in the stomach, which is obviously the longest for protein since this is where it is digested. But once it enters the small intestine it would be in the form of amino acids, and I don't think it would be capable of slowing down the movement of food eaten a few hours later. It's important to keep in mind the state of the food moving through our system and not picture a big piece of steak working its way through. I think that it's actually pretty much in liquid form shortly after leaving the stomach. Take care, Tina ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 08:45:44 -0400 From: Matthew Cirillo <mcirill@emory.edu> To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: Food intolerance Message-ID: <344CA3F7.B476F432@emory.edu> >I was glad to hear it as a 4 or 7 day rotation diet has to be a major pain! >What do others on the list think? I'm not medically inclined, an ex-sufferer of UC on the diet still. I think that there is a great deal of "power" in our beliefs. This is the only explanation I can find for why many of us react so differently to different foods, or combinations of foods. For me, I've chosen to "believe" that the diet in the book will eventually cure me. So far, the going has been slow (as stipulated in the book) but has been sucessful. There are days when certain foods seem to bother me, but I'm not going to devote too much effort or worry in trying to figure it out. I share alot of my experience on this list, and pay attention to what others have discovered - recently I've suspected that I've been eating too much almond flour, and I've felf a bit bloated, but I expect it to subside. I think that subconsciously, I "adapt" or adjust to the subtle reactions my body has to different foods. I believe this is more likely to occur the less I pay attention to it. This means that I "lay off" certain allwable foods often for no valid reason, but I don't think about it too much. There's enough other stuff I can eat until I feel comfortable with whatever I may have suspected was bothering me. Sort of by keeping my head down, plodding along with the diet, thankful that there is someting I can do "proactively" to fight off this UC. I've thought about carrying a picture around in my wallet of me when I was really sick, sitting on the loo, which at one time was my "throne" as a reminder of the progress I have made. As well as I am, the urge to cheat comes up frequently, as I start taking my health for granted.... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 06:57:51 -0700 From: Mary <moira@megamed.com> To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: Day Three Results Message-ID: <2.2.16.19971021065542.26df3ae8@megamed.com> Yesterday was my son's Day Three on the diet. I have him on the diet to overcome bowel problems and hypoactive type autism. I am not giving ground nuts yet, mostly steamed veggies, some raw veggies, some meat, some chicken soup, a tiny, tiny bit of fruit. This little guy is a champ when it comes to vegetables, let me tell you! [I tried a little banana, a little boiled egg, he is still not ready for these foods yet.] The biggest difference I noticed yesterday was he seemed to have bursts of energy. This is unusual, as he has been hypoactive for so long. Also, fewer tantrums, less talking to himself. I got a lot more eye contact. Also, he used to have "accidents" with number 2, we could not figure it out, because he is potty trained. These "accidents" have stopped. I used to be changing him and washing underwear 2 times a day or more, my clothes washer told me it was exhausted! Today it is early and is Day Four, will let you guys know what happens. I can tell you with certainty that I have never heard of this diet before for neurological symptoms like autism. The parents on the Autism list, not all of them, but many of them, have the kids on very, very strong psychoactive drugs. It would be nice to get these kids off these powerful drugs. I have already posted the 800 number for Elaine's book on the Autism list. Many kids show autistic type symptoms because they have been on lots of antibiotics and have lost all or most of their "good" flora and intestinal toxins go from their bowels to their little brains. Then the child is taken to the MD who puts the child on various drugs with very long names. On the Autism List, one parent will write: Dr So and So gave me a super drug to get my child to sleep at night. The next parent writes, How do I contact Dr So and So? I want to get my child on that drug! And on it goes. These so called autistic kids can't sleep, they have bowel/diarrhea problems, these kids are sick physically, NOT MENTALLY. Almost the entire medical system treats them like MENTAL cases. I was told that if I just got my kid enough behavior therapy, he would be cured. Phooey! Moira ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 09:09:58 -0500 (CDT) From: Elizabeth Liener <exuliz@exu.ericsson.se> To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: Re: Day Three Results Message-ID: <199710211409.JAA04856@b01d04.exu.ericsson.se> This is fascinating. Please keep us posted on your son's progress.. Best of luck, Liz > From SCD-request@longisland.com Tue Oct 21 08:59 CDT 1997 > Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 06:57:51 -0700 > X-Sender: moira@megamed.com > X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) > Mime-Version: 1.0 > To: SCD-list@longisland.com > From: Mary <moira@megamed.com> > Subject: Day Three Results > Reply-to: SCD-list@longisland.com > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > SCD MAILING LIST > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Yesterday was my son's Day Three on the diet. I have him on the diet to > overcome bowel problems and hypoactive type autism. > > I am not giving ground nuts yet, mostly steamed veggies, some raw veggies, > some meat, some chicken soup, a tiny, tiny bit of fruit. This little guy > is a champ when it comes to vegetables, let me tell you! [I tried a little > banana, a little boiled egg, he is still not ready for these foods yet.] > > The biggest difference I noticed yesterday was he seemed to have bursts of > energy. This is unusual, as he has been hypoactive for so long. Also, fewer > tantrums, less talking to himself. > > I got a lot more eye contact. > > Also, he used to have "accidents" with number 2, we could not figure it out, > because he is potty trained. These "accidents" have stopped. I used to be > changing him and washing underwear 2 times a day or more, my clothes washer > told me it was exhausted! > > Today it is early and is Day Four, will let you guys know what happens. I > can tell you with certainty that I have never heard of this diet before for > neurological symptoms like autism. The parents on the Autism list, not all > of them, but many of them, have the kids on very, very strong psychoactive > drugs. It would be nice to get these kids off these powerful drugs. I have > already posted the 800 number for Elaine's book on the Autism list. > > Many kids show autistic type symptoms because they have been on lots of > antibiotics and have lost all or most of their "good" flora and intestinal > toxins go from their bowels to their little brains. Then the child is taken > to the MD who puts the child on various drugs with very long names. > > On the Autism List, one parent will write: Dr So and So gave me a super drug > to get my child to sleep at night. > > The next parent writes, How do I contact Dr So and So? I want to get my > child on that drug! > > And on it goes. These so called autistic kids can't sleep, they have > bowel/diarrhea problems, these kids are sick physically, NOT MENTALLY. > > Almost the entire medical system treats them like MENTAL cases. I was told > that if I just got my kid enough behavior therapy, he would be cured. Phooey! > > Moira > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:41:39 +0000 From: "Barbara Mills" <Barb.Mills@diablo.intergate.bc.ca> To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: Re: Day Three Results Message-ID: <199710211605.JAA03363@diablo.intergate.bc.ca> Moira, Your son is so very lucky to have a Mom like you. I wish you both continued success. Keep the testimonials coming, not only are you helping your son (name?) you are inspiring me. :-) You are on the right track! Thanks, Barb Mills Vancouver, Canada ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:42:37 -0700 From: jeff goldschlager <jlager@snet.net> To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: Re: Encourage me if you will.....2 Message-ID: <344CE98D.77B4@snet.net> Pat, thanks for reply. I'm hangin in there for now. jeff ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 09:32:42 -0700 From: "Linda " To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: Re: need recipes Message-ID: <88256537.005A808C.00@baxworld.com> Hello Tina, I have not tried the lasagne and I have also prepared the spaghetti squash recipe. Just wanted to let you know that what I have done is separated the left overs in individual Tupperware containers (the kind that can go in the freezer and then in the microwave). I put some squash on the bottom and some of the meat sauce on top and put them in the freezer. Either myself or my husband take these to work for lunches. They heat up great. That way you can them out a few days and not get sick of spaghetti. Linda guarastr@mcmaster.ca on 10/21/97 05:26:20 AM Please respond to SCD-list@longisland.com To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: need recipes -------------------------------------------------------------------- SCD MAILING LIST ------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi everyone, I just recently tried the lasagna recipe that Elaine has in her book and it didn't really turn out that well. It was runny and kind of bland. I was just wondering if anyone else has tried it with more success or it anyone has a better recipe that I could try. Also, I'm looking for ways to cook spaghetti squash other than with tomato sauce. Sometimes I can get 4 or 5 servings from one squash and living by myself I find that eating spaghetti squash with tomato sauce every night before the squash has a chance to go bad can get kind of boring. Thanks, Tina ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 09:56:49 -0700 From: "Linda " To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: Re: shaky feeling Message-ID: <88256537.005CBE30.00@baxworld.com> William, I totally agree with you on the fruit juices. I absolutely cannot (maybe someday I will be able to) have fruit juice in the morning. It's a total overload to my system. I have bought some grapefruit and oranges from a local organic grower and plan on making juice out of them. I will try maybe one glass in the evening. Thanks for the advice. Linda wlaing@telusplanet.net on 10/20/97 08:15:57 PM Please respond to SCD-list@longisland.com To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: Re: shaky feeling Hypoglycaemia, or as we now know it is a Low Blood Sugar condition Linda you touched on a subject dear to my heart. I have lived most of my long life with this condition. Only learned in the past fifteen years why I had such wide mood swings, with some days barely being able to raise my head long enough to growl at any and everyone. A total lack of energy with complete exhaustion, yet the next day I might feel I could walk on water, h aving bountless energy. Sugar can lift me to the highest degree of euphoria imaginable, followed by a devastating low. I have been on the scd for near five years now and find I must be careful to include some sugars ( not refined) in my day to day meals. To combat the hypoglycaemia , a reasonable sugar level must be maintained. Somewhere during the day I will eat the following foods for just that reason.-------------------------------------------------------------- >feel shaky. Is that normal? Two or three cooking dates with some nuts for a quick pickup, and or a apple that is sweet. Raw cleaned carrots are sweet. As well (if you can eat them) sweet spanish onions fried in some olive oil are very sweet or even raw. Most all fruit will give you a blood sugar lift. Three or four sweet grapes will help. These foods should be spread out during the day and not try to make a meal only of them. I fortunately can eat large amounts of raw apples oranges and rip bannanas. In the early stages of the diet I woul;d not advice fruit juices, unless it is made by yourself. The rule being Donot Trust Labels. > > Hope this may be of help to someone. Good health William > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:18:16 -0700 From: "lGene M. Justman" <genemash@plinet.com> To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: Grain Mill Message-ID: <344CFFF8.3660@plinet.com> 10-21-97 From:genemash@plinet.com to:SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: Corona Grain Mill Having been a Homebrewer of Beer for five years I called my supplier to see if he had ever ground up anything but malted grains in his grain mill, he hadn't but he said the mill was originally used for grinding cornmeal. Well I bought one from with the idea that if it didn't work I could return it. Well it works great it grinds the almond into a powder. You can find these at any homebrew shop for about $30.00. I hope this helps you can grind up 2-lbs in about 3 minutes. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:07:42 -0400 (EDT) From: PI5DA@aol.com To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: Re: fruit and protein Message-ID: <971020215341_126993834@emout18.mail.aol.com> Pratkeesha, >>>>In regards to what you wrote: Well, I have been getting better and better...less pain, cramping, gas, bloating, diarrhea. So, recently, I decided to go for one of the recipes in the book, using cooked apples. I changed the recipe a bit. Mixed almond flour with butter, salt and cinnamon and put over the tart sliced, cored apples and baked in the oven until the apples were done. So delicious, I can't tell you, BUT...every time I ate a helping (as a snack, not with meals), In just a little while I started with the pain, gas, bloating, swelling! I stopped eating the apple crisp concoction and no more pain, gas, bloating and swelling. Started eating apple crisp concoction agAin, and the same symptoms appeared. I tried this 3 times just to see and it was the same each time!!! What an experiment. Fruit mixed with protein for me, does not work, at least at this point!!! >>>> I don't see the protein in here. Proteins that are not allowed with fruit according to the Fit for Life book, are animal protein (meat and cheese). Nuts are vegetable protein, and they are safe with fruit. >>>>Although, also according to Fit for Life, fruit that are cooked and with added sweetner are more acidic and more likely to cause bloating and fermentation. Maybe that is your problem. Aside from perhaps that the fruit itself causing problems??? >>>Simone Prateeksha ------------------------------ From: prateeksha@infoasis.com (Prateeksha Bogardus) To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: Re: psyllium Message-ID: <v01550100b07246f34e79@[206.40.74.39]> >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >SCD MAILING LIST >------------------------------------------------------------------- Jo Ellen, When you take the psyllium, do you take a lot of water with it? Psyllium powder has to be taken with lots of fluid (10 oz.). If you take this with a meal, does that mean that the digestive juices are getting diluted? I always get confused, about taking supplements "with a meal" because that means, "fluid" also and I try to stay away from fluids at mealtime so that my food will have a better opportunity to digest. Consequently, I end up taking supplements about 30 mins. after the meal or before. Thoughts on this? Prateeksha >Simone, >I am not exactly sure how long of a time frame it took for my D to subside >once I started taking the psyllium capsules. I my memory serves me right, I >first started with the psyllium a few weeks before I started the SCD (I >wasn't aware of the SCD Diet) and I wasn't eating any wheat, but I was eating >rice. I still had some D, but it was a great improvement. Now that I am using >both, (psyllium & SCD) I don't have a problem with D at all! I take 2 >capsules 2x/day with a meal along with other vitamin and mineral supplements. >I also take Pentasa (4 3x/day) I cut myself back from taking the Pentasa 4 >4x/day and so far things are working great! The psyllium I take is from >"Nature's Sunshine" and the bottle says, "Plantago psyllium - 600 mg (9.22 >grains) each." I am not sure what qty. of the powder is equal to one capsule. >I hope I've helped you on this one. >JoEllen ------------------------------ From: prateeksha@infoasis.com (Prateeksha Bogardus) To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: Re: need recipes Message-ID: <v01550102b0724a1b0c7e@[206.40.74.60]> >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >SCD MAILING LIST >------------------------------------------------------------------- >Hi everyone, Tina, re spaghetti squash, I also live alone and have experienced the same as you; however, I find this squash is very soothing to my guts, so I eat the rest of it after the sauce is exhausted, with roasted chicken pieces ontop and some of the "gelee" over that and microwave. Delicious, along with English peas, or some other green. Prateeksha >I just recently tried the lasagna recipe that Elaine has in her book and it >didn't really turn out that well. It was runny and kind of bland. I was >just wondering if anyone else has tried it with more success or it anyone >has a better recipe that I could try. >Also, I'm looking for ways to cook spaghetti squash other than with tomato >sauce. Sometimes I can get 4 or 5 servings from one squash and living by >myself I find that eating spaghetti squash with tomato sauce every night >before the squash has a chance to go bad can get kind of boring. > >Thanks, >Tina ------------------------------ From: prateeksha@infoasis.com (Prateeksha Bogardus) To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: Re: Food intolerance Message-ID: <v01550105b0724e88167d@[206.40.74.60]> >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >SCD MAILING LIST >------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Matthew: Thank you so much for your thoughts about the diet/food intolerance. I feel you have very valid points to make and in fact, your attitude is what I "hear" when I read Elaine's remarks, about just "do" the diet and let it heal you. She has such confidence in it. I am slowly progressing and it is time for me to move into "faith" and "trust" that this diet will CONTINUE TO WORK. Why shouldn't it? Prateeksha (spiritual name, means: "Waiting".) Isn't that a kick? >>I was glad to hear it as a 4 or 7 day rotation diet has to be a major >pain! >>What do others on the list think? > >I'm not medically inclined, an ex-sufferer of UC on the diet still. I >think that there is a great deal of "power" in our beliefs. This is the >only explanation I can find for why many of us react so differently to >different foods, or combinations of foods. For me, I've chosen to >"believe" that the diet in the book will eventually cure me. So far, >the going has been slow (as stipulated in the book) but has been >sucessful. There are days when certain foods seem to bother me, but I'm >not going to devote too much effort or worry in trying to figure it >out. I share alot of my experience on this list, and pay attention to >what others have discovered - recently I've suspected that I've been >eating too much almond flour, and I've felf a bit bloated, but I expect >it to subside. I think that subconsciously, I "adapt" or adjust to the >subtle reactions my body has to different foods. I believe this is more >likely to occur the less I pay attention to it. This means that I "lay >off" certain allwable foods often for no valid reason, but I don't think >about it too much. There's enough other stuff I can eat until I feel >comfortable with whatever I may have suspected was bothering me. Sort >of by keeping my head down, plodding along with the diet, thankful that >there is someting I can do "proactively" to fight off this UC. I've >thought about carrying a picture around in my wallet of me when I was >really sick, sitting on the loo, which at one time was my "throne" as a >reminder of the progress I have made. As well as I am, the urge to cheat >comes up frequently, as I start taking my health for granted.... ------------------------------ From: prateeksha@infoasis.com (Prateeksha Bogardus) To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: Re: Day Three Results Message-ID: <v01550107b072519ccfbc@[206.40.74.60]> >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >SCD MAILING LIST >------------------------------------------------------------------- >Moira, > And me!!! I forwarded your email to my daughter in Atlanta, Ga. who is a special ed teacher (18 years). I was so touched by it. I salute your specialness, Moira, and the specialness of all wonderful, caring mothers and dads everywhere! Love, Prateeksha >Your son is so very lucky to have a Mom like you. I wish you both >continued success. Keep the testimonials coming, not only are you >helping your son (name?) you are inspiring me. :-) You are on the >right track! > >Thanks, > >Barb Mills >Vancouver, Canada ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:31:32 -0700 From: Mary <moira@megamed.com> To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: SPEECH!!! Message-ID: <2.2.16.19971021122929.2bc76e5c@megamed.com> Now on Day Four, I am getting a lot of speech, I am holding my breath, almost afraid to talk about it! My question is, my son still laughs at weird times. Not a whole lot, but say you are riding in the car, he will start laughing to himself inappropriately and acting silly. Would this be yeast toxins or "bad' bacteria toxins? Right now he is upstairs asking the tutor over and over, Do you want to play with me? I am hearing more and better speech. More alertness, improvement overall. Mind you I have spent over two years and tons of money trying to get him better. This diet is working so far. I am very cautiously optimistic. I had him gluten free which helped, but this diet is getting rid of all starches and no longer feeding the bad bacteria. Moira ps Regarding Day Three, Elaine wrote back by fax that we do not know the outcome yet for Larry but that it looks good. She said to look for CHANGE IN COLOR of his bowel movements, for example, from brown to green would say that we are changing the bacterial flora. ------------------------------ From: prateeksha@infoasis.com (Prateeksha Bogardus) To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: Re: fruit and protein Message-ID: <v01550108b07252e91e0d@[206.40.74.60]> >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >SCD MAILING LIST >------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Simone, thanks for your reply. I did add honey to the mixture, so maybe that is the problem. Also, I do have problems digesting fruit; gas, bloating, pain. Thanks for your insight. Prateeksha > >Pratkeesha, > >>>>>In regards to what you wrote: > >Well, I have been getting better and better...less pain, cramping, gas, >bloating, diarrhea. So, recently, I decided to go for one of the recipes >in the book, using cooked apples. I changed the recipe a bit. Mixed >almond flour with butter, salt and cinnamon and put over the tart sliced, >cored apples and baked in the oven until the apples were done. So >delicious, I can't tell you, BUT...every time I ate a helping (as a snack, >not with meals), In just a little while I started with the pain, gas, >bloating, swelling! I stopped eating the apple crisp concoction and no >more pain, gas, bloating and swelling. Started eating apple crisp >concoction agAin, and the same symptoms appeared. I tried this 3 times >just to see and it was the same each time!!! What an experiment. Fruit >mixed with protein for me, does not work, at least at this point!!! > > >>>>> I don't see the protein in here. Proteins that are not allowed with >fruit according to the Fit for Life book, are animal protein (meat and >cheese). Nuts are vegetable protein, and they are safe with fruit. > >>>>>Although, also according to Fit for Life, fruit that are cooked and with >added sweetner are more acidic and more likely to cause bloating and >fermentation. Maybe that is your problem. Aside from perhaps that the fruit >itself causing problems??? > >>>>Simone > > >Prateeksha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 15:43:15 -0400 (EDT) From: SHADOWPUP@aol.com To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: equalactin Message-ID: <971021154005_-693585447@emout03.mail.aol.com> Equalactin can be found in any drugstore. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 15:28:55 EDT From: El1256 <El1256@aol.com> To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: Re: need recipes Message-ID: <64bfa914.344d024f@aol.com> Tina You can freeze spaghetti squash in meal size portions for another night. Elizabeth W. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 15:29:12 -0400 (EDT) From: SHADOWPUP@aol.com To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: yogurt Message-ID: <971021152016_357416018@emout01.mail.aol.com> Lucy - starting off with 2 quarts of yogurt and ending up with 1 1/2 - you said i was losing to evaporation. i am using a YOGURTMET yogurt maker! so dont know how to get around this Joan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:16:09 -0700 From: Pat Sullivan <psullivan@saleslogix.com> To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: RE: Equalactin Message-ID: <E0C18E118B25D1118AC000805F4B98460CD6DB@logixmail.saleslogix.com> Simone, The mfg of Equalactin is NuMark Labs in Edison NJ. Their # is 1-800-331-0221 pat > -----Original Message----- > From: Pat Sullivan [SMTP:psullivan@saleslogix.com] > Sent: Monday, October 20, 1997 2:19 PM > To: SCD-list@longisland.com > Subject: RE: Equalactin > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > SCD MAILING LIST > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > I found it at Smiths, a large, regular, grocery store. I 'll check on > the mfg. Don't have the box with me. > > Pat > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: PI5DA@aol.com [SMTP:PI5DA@aol.com] > > Sent: Monday, October 20, 1997 1:13 PM > > To: SCD-list@longisland.com > > Subject: Equalactin > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > SCD MAILING LIST > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Hi, > > > > I can't find anyone who sells Equalactin any where. One healthfood > > store > > wanted the name of the manufaturer. > > > > Can this product be ordered by mail? I am eager to try it. > > > > Simone ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 16:44:40 -0400 (EDT) From: KevandDee@aol.com To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: Re: Food combining and SCD (final?)-not Message-ID: <971020223645_-57465873@emout20.mail.aol.com> Liz: Amen. Deanna ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:31:32 -0700 From: Pat Sullivan <psullivan@saleslogix.com> To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: RE: Food intolerance Message-ID: <E0C18E118B25D1118AC000805F4B98460CD6E7@logixmail.saleslogix.com> I know I read somewhere here that Elaine does not have a high regard for the Rotation Diet concept. Someone else may have the details. Regarding our beliefs being powerful, I certainly agree because what we believe, affects what we actually DO. However, I must confess that I started out on SCD not believing that it would necessarily work, in fact, I was very skeptical (but desperate), particularly of fruits, as I had taught to deeply believe that Fruits would either "feed my candida or bring them back". I tried them with fear and trepidation. Seeing, though became believing as I began to improve. Believing came after seeing in this case. One can believe all they want that they are on the train to New York but if they are actually on the one to Philly, to Philly they will go. Under the Candida diet, I really believed I could eat things like rice and yeast free bread but I always had longstanding and severe problems on that diet regardless of my strong belief. It seems to me, our beliefs are the most powerful when we actually believe something that is TRUE. For what it's worth... Pat > -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew Cirillo [SMTP:mcirill@emory.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 1997 5:46 AM > To: SCD-list@longisland.com > Subject: Food intolerance > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > SCD MAILING LIST > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > >I was glad to hear it as a 4 or 7 day rotation diet has to be a major > pain! > >What do others on the list think? > > I'm not medically inclined, an ex-sufferer of UC on the diet still. I > think that there is a great deal of "power" in our beliefs. This is > the > only explanation I can find for why many of us react so differently to > different foods, or combinations of foods. For me, I've chosen to > "believe" that the diet in the book will eventually cure me. So far, > the going has been slow (as stipulated in the book) but has been > sucessful. There are days when certain foods seem to bother me, but > I'm > not going to devote too much effort or worry in trying to figure it > out. I share alot of my experience on this list, and pay attention to > what others have discovered - recently I've suspected that I've been > eating too much almond flour, and I've felf a bit bloated, but I > expect > it to subside. I think that subconsciously, I "adapt" or adjust to > the > subtle reactions my body has to different foods. I believe this is > more > likely to occur the less I pay attention to it. This means that I > "lay > off" certain allwable foods often for no valid reason, but I don't > think > about it too much. There's enough other stuff I can eat until I feel > comfortable with whatever I may have suspected was bothering me. Sort > of by keeping my head down, plodding along with the diet, thankful > that > there is someting I can do "proactively" to fight off this UC. I've > thought about carrying a picture around in my wallet of me when I was > really sick, sitting on the loo, which at one time was my "throne" as > a > reminder of the progress I have made. As well as I am, the urge to > cheat > comes up frequently, as I start taking my health for granted.... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:44:40 -0700 From: Pat Sullivan <psullivan@saleslogix.com> To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: RE: Day Three Results Message-ID: <E0C18E118B25D1118AC000805F4B98460CD6F0@logixmail.saleslogix.com> Congratulations Moira. This is remarkable! Please keep letting us know his progress! I will say that I have personally experienced very, very weird and disturbing mental, emotional stuff going on inside of me when I have had GI tract flare ups. Also, I experience sleep disturbances every time. These simply go away as my GI problems calm back down. Sometimes, after eating a complex carbo meal, I seemed to be able to literally feel toxins hitting my brain and nervous system. It was not until SCD that I finally made the full connection to ALL complex carbos and undigested complex sugars. I have been amazed at how quickly, (23 days now), these weird symptoms have simply gone away. Under the candida protocol, with anti-fungal meds and diet etc, I would eventually get better, but it would take at least 4 to 8 months each time. Keep plugging away. You may well be witnessing a miracle that could change the lives of many on you Autism Listserv and beyond! Pat > -----Original Message----- > From: Mary [SMTP:moira@megamed.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 1997 6:58 AM > To: SCD-list@longisland.com > Subject: Day Three Results > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > SCD MAILING LIST > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Yesterday was my son's Day Three on the diet. I have him on the diet > to > overcome bowel problems and hypoactive type autism. > > I am not giving ground nuts yet, mostly steamed veggies, some raw > veggies, > some meat, some chicken soup, a tiny, tiny bit of fruit. This little > guy > is a champ when it comes to vegetables, let me tell you! [I tried a > little > banana, a little boiled egg, he is still not ready for these foods > yet.] > > The biggest difference I noticed yesterday was he seemed to have > bursts of > energy. This is unusual, as he has been hypoactive for so long. Also, > fewer > tantrums, less talking to himself. > > I got a lot more eye contact. > > Also, he used to have "accidents" with number 2, we could not figure > it out, > because he is potty trained. These "accidents" have stopped. I used to > be > changing him and washing underwear 2 times a day or more, my clothes > washer > told me it was exhausted! > > Today it is early and is Day Four, will let you guys know what > happens. I > can tell you with certainty that I have never heard of this diet > before for > neurological symptoms like autism. The parents on the Autism list, not > all > of them, but many of them, have the kids on very, very strong > psychoactive > drugs. It would be nice to get these kids off these powerful drugs. I > have > already posted the 800 number for Elaine's book on the Autism list. > > Many kids show autistic type symptoms because they have been on lots > of > antibiotics and have lost all or most of their "good" flora and > intestinal > toxins go from their bowels to their little brains. Then the child is > taken > to the MD who puts the child on various drugs with very long names. > > On the Autism List, one parent will write: Dr So and So gave me a > super drug > to get my child to sleep at night. > > The next parent writes, How do I contact Dr So and So? I want to get > my > child on that drug! > > And on it goes. These so called autistic kids can't sleep, they have > bowel/diarrhea problems, these kids are sick physically, NOT MENTALLY. > > Almost the entire medical system treats them like MENTAL cases. I was > told > that if I just got my kid enough behavior therapy, he would be cured. > Phooey! > > Moira ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 14:53:53 -0700 From: Mary <moira@megamed.com> To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: RE: Equalactin Message-ID: <2.2.16.19971021145152.2707d006@megamed.com> What is Equalactin for? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 17:18:30 -0500 From: jhubbard@ghg.net (Joe Hubbard) To: 'SCDList' <SCD-list@longisland.com> Subject: RE: need recipes Message-ID: <01BCDE45.E7B46440@max7-51.ghg.net> Here is my lasagna variation. I haven't made it in awhile so I can't = remember if it was still as runny as the recipe in the book or not. We = seemed to like it though.=20 2 med zucchini - sliced long ways, cooked (I steam it) 1 lb ground beef - brown with onion, garlic. Add about 1 1/2 cup = tomato sauce. You can add other spices to be creative 12 oz dry curd cottage cheese with 1 egg mixed in grated cheese for the top Layer in an 8" x 8" pan: =20 1/2 the zucchini slices, 1/2 the meat mixture, all dccc mixture 1/2 the zucchini, 1/2 the meat and top with cheese Bake at 350 for 20-25 minutes. Carla ---------- From: T G [SMTP:guarastr@mcmaster.ca] Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 1997 7:26 AM To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: need recipes -------------------------------------------------------------------- SCD MAILING LIST ------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi everyone, I just recently tried the lasagna recipe that Elaine has in her book and = it didn't really turn out that well. It was runny and kind of bland. I = was just wondering if anyone else has tried it with more success or it = anyone has a better recipe that I could try. Also, I'm looking for ways to cook spaghetti squash other than with = tomato sauce. Sometimes I can get 4 or 5 servings from one squash and living = by myself I find that eating spaghetti squash with tomato sauce every night before the squash has a chance to go bad can get kind of boring. Thanks, Tina ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 15:38:38 -0700 From: Pat Sullivan <psullivan@saleslogix.com> To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: RE: Equalactin Message-ID: <E0C18E118B25D1118AC000805F4B98460D0A31@logixmail.saleslogix.com> Symptoms of IBS. Alternating Diahrea and Constipation. > -----Original Message----- > From: Mary [SMTP:moira@megamed.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 1997 2:54 PM > To: SCD-list@longisland.com > Subject: RE: Equalactin > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > SCD MAILING LIST > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > What is Equalactin for? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 19:19:46 -0400 (EDT) From: SHADOWPUP@aol.com To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: Liz Message-ID: <971021154338_1201309658@emout05.mail.aol.com> Liz - i was sure glad to see your post. seems i am experiencing the same thing. seems the first couple of weeks went better than now. i have been on the diet about a month or so and seems i have much more bloating. i dont even eat like i should because of it. what i HAVE noticed is less irritation of the gut and MORE bloating. also, i am going to try Aerobic 07 to see if i can get to something or whatever is in there causing problems. Joan ------------------------------ End of SCD-list V1 #76 ********************** SCD-list Wed, 22 Oct 1997 Volume 1 : Number 77 In this issue: Sleep disturbance viruses Re: yogurt fibromyalgia Calcium stearate Re: Psyllium Re: Calcium stearate Re: food combining Re: Sleep disturbance Addendum to question re "Calcium Stearate", a common ingredient in vitamin / mineral pills Re: psyllium colemas Re: fibromyalgia overactive immune system Re: Day Three Results Re: Sleep disturbance Re: More colds & flu response Re: Sleep disturbance Lois Lang "light" aol - cut and paste Reflux disease Additional conclusions re the "colds / flus" survey Re: More colds & flu response Re: aol - cut and paste -------------------------------------------------------------------- SCD MAILING LIST ------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 17:31:28 -0700 From: Dempsey <stellar1@pacbell.net> To: SCD <SCD-list@longisland.com> Subject: Sleep disturbance Message-ID: <344D4960.71BE@pacbell.net> I too have had sleep disturbances that were associated with my gut problems. They flare up when my bacteria do, go down when my gut is healthier. Facinating. Nobody (except Elaine and the SCD list) talk about this. Has anybody else had sleep disturbance connected to their gut problems? Denise Pat wrote: Also, I experience sleep disturbances every time. These simply go away as my GI problems calm back down. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 20:52:50 -0400 (EDT) From: T G <guarastr@mcmaster.ca> To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: viruses Message-ID: <m0xNp2Y-003KflC@iaw.on.ca> All this talk about colds has reminded me of something that I've noticed since being diagnosed with IBD. I haven't gotten nearly as many cold sores as I used to get. I don't really understand why this happens, but since it is a virus as well I thought it might be a similar phenomenon. I know one time in this group someone mentioned something about the body having almost a weak link, or a stress point. So when you are stressed it manifests itself in a certain way depending on what your weak point is. I guess maybe the weak point is different for everyone and maybe it can change. Take care, Tina ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 17:51:07 -0700 From: rosset@juno.com (Lucy Rosset) To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: Re: yogurt Message-ID: <19971021.175113.10454.0.rosset@juno.com> Joan, To minimize the evaporation keep the lid on the pan while you are heating the milk up on the stove. Remove the lid only when you want to stir it. I find it heats up faster using a lid, so that's a plus. Use a pan that is larger than what you need in case it starts boiling it won't end up all over the stove. Also, the Yogourmet will hold a little more than 2 quarts. You could make it with an extra cup as long as it all fits in the tub. Remember to use a little extra starter for the extra cup. If you want to make a huge amount at once either buy a second yogurt maker, or use the oven method. Good luck (you're bound to get this figured out sooner or later!) Lucy PS You can also buy an extra container for your Yogourmet. I've got one on order right now. Thank you Partridge's for that suggestion. On Tue, 21 Oct 1997 15:29:12 -0400 (EDT) SHADOWPUP@aol.com writes: >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >SCD MAILING LIST >------------------------------------------------------------------- >Lucy - > >starting off with 2 quarts of yogurt and ending up with 1 1/2 - you >said i >was losing to evaporation. i am using a YOGURTMET yogurt maker! so >dont know >how to get around this > >Joan > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 18:10:38 -0700 From: Dempsey <stellar1@pacbell.net> To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: fibromyalgia Message-ID: <344D528E.2A48@pacbell.net> Hi Rachel, I just did something recently that has made a huge difference in my fibromyalgia symptoms. Maybe you have already heard of people taking magnesium and malic acid supplements? I recently found out what the recommended dosages for FM were, and tried during the last week it with great success. No acheyness to speak of. Plus I used to have this knot in my jaw that has completley gone away for the first time in years. In case you want to know the dosages recommend for fibromyalgia, here they are: 300 - 600 mg. magnesium 1200 - 1400 mg. malic acid I have been using a supplement that combines both. It's called Magnesium Malate Forte, by the company called Allergy Research. Just thought I would share. If you haven't tried this, it's really worth a try. Denise Rachel Turet wrote: > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > SCD MAILING LIST > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > >"One doctor actually told me that the reason he hadn't taken me > >seriously was because I was well put together and well spoken when he > >saw me. It was hard for him to understand that this is a part of who I > >am, and doesn't mean I'm not in pain!" > > To all that have chimed in with dittos to this one, please include me! I've > had doctors tell me the exact same thing almost word for word. I am also a > person who refuses to let pain run my life. I come across strong and > healthy. I guess its hard to take me seriously when I claim to be in agony > even though I've just worked 8 hours, taken a martial arts class, done my > housework and made sure dinner was on the table. It just makes me want to > scream with frustration when a doctor refuses to take you seriously because > you are stoic and won't succumb to the pain. I was on nortryptaline for a > while for the FM, but its usefullness was shortlived. I kept having to take > more and more with less and less results. I finally gave up on it. I take a > lot of tylonal and when the pain becomes unbearable, I take a percocet > (maybe once or twice a month). As for the asocal VS azulphadine, I was on > azulphadine for about 8 years total and it did help. I guess its been about > a year and 1/2 since I stopped taking anything for my UC ( no reason to) > Rachel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 18:07:47 -0700 From: Mary <moira@megamed.com> To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: Calcium stearate Message-ID: <2.2.16.19971021180549.2e375064@megamed.com> Is calcium stearate ok? It is in my son's vitamins, which say "no starch" and "hypoallergenic" on them. Also, are carbohydrate cravings normal, my son is asking for rice and potatoes!!! Moira ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 97 08:21:09 +0800 From: "Tom Cattrall" <tomc@pnn.com> To: "SCD-list@longisland.com" <SCD-list@longisland.com> Subject: Re: Psyllium Message-ID: <199710220157.SAA12338@pnn.com> Simone, It doesn't sound like Questran would really be indicated for you. The purpose of it is to bind up bile acids that are getting through into the large intestine due to small bowel problems (diseased or missing). The stuff is relatively innocuous but it does have a tendency to bind up fat based vitamins such as ADEK. Wouldn't hurt to ask your doctor about it though. Tom On Tue, 21 Oct 1997 00:02:12 -0400 (EDT), PI5DA@aol.com wrote: >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >SCD MAILING LIST >------------------------------------------------------------------- >From: "Tom Cattrall" <tomc@pnn.com> >To: "SCD-list@longisland.com" <SCD-list@longisland.com> >Subject: Re: psyllium >Message-ID: <199710201752.KAA08498@pnn.com> > >>>>Tom, > >>>>No, I never had bowel surgery. I have only known I have CD for a couple >of weeks, although I suspect I had it for at least 2 years. My upper GI and >small bowel came up clean a few months ago. The CD is only in my large >intestine (several places). > >>>>Do you think I could use Questran anyway? Or do I have to have small >intestine CD to benefit from it? I am seeing my doctor in 2 weeks. He >usually suggests Metamusil, but I have been using straight psyllium. > >>>>Any imput? > >>>>Simone ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 19:04:44 -0700 From: painsolv@smartt.com To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: Re: Calcium stearate Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19971021190444.006abbc0@smartt.com> At 06:07 PM 10/21/97 -0700, you wrote: >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >SCD MAILING LIST >------------------------------------------------------------------- >Is calcium stearate ok? It is in my son's vitamins, which say "no starch" >and "hypoallergenic" on them. > Calcium, of course, you know what that is: a mineral, and it's OK. "Stearate" means "stearic acid" (which gets its name because it either comes from or smells like beef fat, I believe); it's a saturated fatty acid. Calcium stearate is used as filler & stabilizer; I would say it's OK. >Moira > > > ~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ D. Hartl RMT Specialist in: Orthopaedic Assessment - Tactile Therapies - Pain Solutions White Rock, British Columbia ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 19:33:52 -0700 From: painsolv@smartt.com To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: Re: food combining Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19971021193352.006b17e4@smartt.com> Hi, Tina: I like your analysis of the food combining puzzle ... whether it's worth worrying about or one can just forget it? Read on .... At 08:26 AM 10/21/97 -0400, you wrote: >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >SCD MAILING LIST >------------------------------------------------------------------- >I've read a lot on this list about food combining lately and I must admit I >am getting confused, just like I did while reading the book Fit for Life. > >Food does need an optimal pH in order for the digestive enzymes that act on >it to work properly, but the body takes care of that on its own. One theory is that when a person's system is out of homeostasis ("out of balance" aka "ill"), the body does NOT / can NOT take care of achieving optimal pH. >The >stomach is acidic and optimal for the digestion of proteins but then when >the partially digested food leaves the stomach and enters the small >intestine, the pH is neutralized and brought to the ideal level for the >enzymes that break down carbohydrates to work. Fat is also digested in the >small intestines with the help of bile and fat digesting enzymes. Good overview. Apparently starches are also already being attacked by enzymes from glands in the mouth. >So why do we need to worry about eating certain foods in combination when >nature has already taken care of that for us? As I said, perhaps to "give a helping hand" to an ailing system???? >And would fruit really >petrify PU-trify. As in "putrefaction", as in "rotting away". >just because it's sitting in the stomach not being digested, Actually, it's protein that would putrify if it's not being properly digested; fruits & starches would ferment. But anyway ... >wouldn't something else be required for it to go bad that quickly? No. I believe things can "rot" & "ferment" as soon as the body's natural digestive processes are aborted / malfunctioning because of the bacteria in the foods themselves & in the body. I look at it as a sort of race: if the body's "good guys" don't get to work on it first & in the manner Nature meant them to, then the "bad guys" (in the food & in the body) win the race and THEY do their thing. >Also, I >read that when you eat raw fruits and vegetables, they actually contain, in >the food themselves, enzymes that will digest them. Yes, that's what is said. And that to me would be another reason to eat them first: because these are the most easily-digested foods, thus the most active enzymes, you want to allow them "the green light" instead of making them wait behind the slow-moving proteins & fats; even though the stomach DOES churn all the stuff in it into one "mash", perhaps if the proteins arrive first the body will produce the proteinases (protein-eating enyzmes) first, and say "never mind to the fruit & starch enzymes, we'll get to them later", thus settting the stage for bad digestion of fruits / veggies / starches??? >These are just a few problems that I had when I read the book. I don't know >if I'm way off base here. Neither do I. I'm just going by things I know from my physiology courses, trying to see how some of these theories COULD be explained logically. >Does anyone have any comments? Yep, you just read 'em, dear! >Also, the talk about how fast things move through our digestive system. I >think that a big part of that is how long they need to remain in the >stomach, which is obviously the longest for protein since this is where it >is digested. But once it enters the small intestine it would be in the form >of amino acids, and I don't think it would be capable of slowing down the >movement of food eaten a few hours later. No comment, I don't know. >It's important to keep in mind >the state of the food moving through our system and not picture a big piece >of steak working its way through. I think that it's actually pretty much in >liquid form shortly after leaving the stomach. > Yes, as I previously mentioned, it's a "mush" called "chyme" when it leaves the stomach; the normal human stomach does not allow the food coming in from the mouth to exit out until it has a specific consistency & pH (acid/base balance). >Take care, >Tina > You too, Tina, it's been a pleasure Dietmar ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 19:41:42 -0700 From: painsolv@smartt.com To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: Re: Sleep disturbance Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19971021194142.006b1de4@smartt.com> Dempsey: Yes, I too used to get severe nightmares & night sweats with bad colitis periods. Dietmar At 05:31 PM 10/21/97 -0700, you wrote: >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >SCD MAILING LIST >------------------------------------------------------------------- >I too have had sleep disturbances that were associated with my gut >problems. They flare up when my bacteria do, go down when my gut is >healthier. Facinating. Nobody (except Elaine and the SCD list) talk >about this. Has anybody else had sleep disturbance connected to their >gut problems? > >Denise > >Pat wrote: >Also, I experience sleep disturbances every time. >These simply go away as my GI problems calm back down. > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 19:50:04 -0700 From: painsolv@smartt.com To: SCD@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU, scd-list@longisland.com Subject: Addendum to question re "Calcium Stearate", a common ingredient in vitamin / mineral pills Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19971021195004.006b136c@smartt.com> "Stearate" is a form ("an ester or salt of ...", to be specific, but don't worry about the technicalities) of stearic acid, which is (according to Taber's Cyclopedic Medical Dictionary) "a white, fatty acid found in solid animal fats and a few vegetable fats". I don't think it conflicts with any of the SCD rules; and the amounts found in the pills are probably not going to do any harm, even if the stuff WERE harmful. Dietmar ~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ D. Hartl RMT Specialist in: Orthopaedic Assessment - Tactile Therapies - Pain Solutions White Rock, British Columbia ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 23:05:03 -0400 (EDT) From: BCohen7014@aol.com To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: Re: psyllium Message-ID: <971021230410_-526664280@emout16.mail.aol.com> Prateeksha, I do take all of my vitamin and herb supplements with ALOT of water. But that is usually the only time I do drink all that water. The bottle of psyllium capsules recommends to take the two capsules with a meal twice daily. I usually end up taking all of these supplements toward the end of my meal or after I have finished eating. The Herbalist that I go to specifically gave me the psyllium for the "D", but from the information I have gathered, the psyllium can also be helpful to those who have the opposite problem of constipation. But, in order for that to happen, I think that alot of fluid is necessary as well. That is why I don't go heavy on my fluid intake other than when necessary. I regard to my digestive juices getting diluted, I don't seem to have a problem with my food digesting. I guess I am pretty lucky. JoEllen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 05:38:00 -0400 (EDT) From: SHADOWPUP@aol.com To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: colemas Message-ID: <971021151750_2115026129@emout07.mail.aol.com> Hi Dietmar - you will have to re-ask your question because it is not clear to me. what do you mean what are colemas made of? (and no, i do not like comparing them to colonics or enemas. they are 500% more effective). Joan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 06:37:58 -0500 From: Rachel Turet <rachel@longisland.com> To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: Re: fibromyalgia Message-ID: <l03010d00b073959d50a8@[206.112.46.25]> > >300 - 600 mg. magnesium >1200 - 1400 mg. malic acid > Dear Denise, Sounds interesting. I'd like to give it a try. Please clarify the dosage. How many pills a day? Thanks. Rachel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 08:12:15 -0400 (EDT) From: SHADOWPUP@aol.com To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: overactive immune system Message-ID: <971021154115_899286817@emout06.mail.aol.com> isnt an overactive immune system tied in with AUTOIMMUNE problems? in other words, arent you wide open for autoimmune diseases? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 08:50:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Kebridan@aol.com To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: Re: Day Three Results Message-ID: <971021142626_966799684@emout10.mail.aol.com> Moira, I'm so happy for you and your son that you are trying this diet. As a mother of 5, some of them older now and live away from home, but if I knew then what I know now-oh boy would I do things differently in the kitchen. Plus, all my kids remember the "pink Stuff" (amoxicillin for those multiple ear infections). Take care, Jane ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Oct 97 08:09:12 PDT From: "Kim Endres" <kendres@resdyn.com> To: "LongIsland SCD List" <SCD-list@longisland.com> Subject: Re: Sleep disturbance Message-ID: <MAPI.Id.0016.00656e64726573203030303730303037@MAPI.to.RFC822> I do too. I usually wake up in the early morning hours with pain in my ribs/upper abdomen. Intermittent. I've been wondering if it has to do with poor digestion of fats, something that showed up on a stool test. Kim ---------- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > SCD MAILING LIST > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > I too have had sleep disturbances that were associated with my gut > problems. They flare up when my bacteria do, go down when my gut is > healthier. Facinating. Nobody (except Elaine and the SCD list) talk > about this. Has anybody else had sleep disturbance connected to their > gut problems? > > Denise > > Pat wrote: > Also, I experience sleep disturbances every time. > These simply go away as my GI problems calm back down. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 08:59:24 -0400 From: RAMAN PRASAD <RAPRASAD@BCBSCT.COM> To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: Re: More colds & flu response Message-ID: <s44dc0ef.060@BCBSCT.COM> I also seem to contract less colds/flu then people around me. However, when I was younger (up to age 17) I had constant allergies, asthma, etc and always seemed to be catching a cold or at least blowing my nose. All of these systems subsided (no asthma sprays, no allergy shots, no more raising the stock prices of Kleenex) when I stopped drinking milk (used to drink close to 1 gallon/day) and avoided cheese (there are many amazing pizza places in my area). However, these diet modifications were a response to being diagnosed w/ UC. -Raman ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 11:50:25 -0400 (EDT) From: El1256@aol.com To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: Re: Sleep disturbance Message-ID: <971022112136_1960021971@mrin40.mail.aol.com> Kim What has helped me was taking pancreatin enzymes to help digest fats, not eating any animal protein past 1pm since it takes many hours to digest, and trying not to eat past 7pm. I can sleep better when I can stick to this. Elizabeth W. ps this info came from a naturopath I see. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 11:00:26 -0700 From: rosset@juno.com (Lucy Rosset) To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: Lois Lang "light" Message-ID: <19971022.110328.10454.0.rosset@juno.com> Here is a little lighter version of the Lois Lang bread. 3 cups almond flour 1 tsp baking soda 3/4 tsp salt 3 TBL melted butter (just under 1/2 stick) 3/4 cup dry curd cottage chesse 2 eggs 1/2 cup water 1 TBL caraway seeds (optional) Put the almond flour in a large bowl. Process the eggs, ddcc, butter, baking soda, salt, and water together until smooth. Stir processed mixture into the almond flour with a large spoon. Scoop batter into buttered loaf pans filling 3/4 full. Bake at 340F until done. I use the small loaf pans (51/2"X3") that you buy in sets of 4. Because they are smaller the loaves come of the pans very easily, NEVER tearing. Also, because of the smaller size the middle cooks up well. I quadruple the above recipe, and freeze most of it. It usually lasts about 3 months. PS. For any of you who have made the Lois Lang bread and decided you don't like it, try toasting it. I don't particularly like it unless it's toasted. To make crackers out of the slices put them on a tray or foil on low heat in the toaster oven and bake until crisp. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 14:22:44 -0400 (EDT) From: SHADOWPUP@aol.com To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: aol - cut and paste Message-ID: <971021151907_-790435502@emout07.mail.aol.com> Simone - i cant cut and paste on aol either. i have been checking this out. i can only do it once and i dont know where the rest of the copy goes. Joan ps there is somewhere you can post a note to aol and someone who knows will email you. if you find out let me know ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:49:23 EDT From: MSWday <MSWday@aol.com> To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: Reflux disease Message-ID: <861a9e04.344e66aa@aol.com> hi everyone. I've been on the diet faithfully since October 1st. Since then I've had two major flare's of my reflux disease (very painfull ones). Has anyone else had this experience? If so, is it related to the diet? Is it a matter of altering some things, or avoiding things??? Mike ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 13:45:11 -0700 From: painsolv@smartt.com To: SCD@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU, scd-list@longisland.com Subject: Additional conclusions re the "colds / flus" survey Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19971022134511.006a4e64@smartt.com> Some thoughts that came to me after sending off the survey results to the question "Do you (an IBD'er) get more or fewer colds / flus than the people around you?" According to findings from our (admittedly small) sample group: - the ability to ward off colds / flus by people with coliltis / Crohn's does NOT appear to be gender-linked, i.e. both the men & the women in our group appear to possess the same ability - if (as it appears) IBD'ers have the ability to decrease / prevent getting colds & flues, this must mean there IS a "cure" for the common cold & flus (despite the medical industry's frequent chant that "There is no cure for the common cold"), and that this ability is NOT dependent on pills & shots but rather something in our bodies' systems. - because all who participated are IBDers, while at the same time NOT getting as many colds/flus as the non-IBD-ers in their environment, one could hypothesize that the processes of IBD and the processes of colds/flu infection are somehow "opposite" in their mechanism ... if one could only understand what "opposite" means in a biological sense! I know these points sound very technical, but I wanted to just "get them out there" ... one never knows what inspired souls are "lurking" in our group who seldom or never participate but may have some brilliant insights they might one day share! Best wishes, Dietmar ~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ D. Hartl RMT Specialist in: Orthopaedic Assessment - Tactile Therapies - Pain Solutions White Rock, British Columbia ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 14:26:56 -0700 From: painsolv@smartt.com To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: Re: More colds & flu response Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19971022142656.006ac80c@smartt.com> Thanks, Raman, for replying. Too bad you missed the "official tally", but I'll make a note of it on my hard copy. I, too, discovered (at an early age, about 14) that I had a lactose intolerance which, on reflection, I probably had from about age 3 or so, thus, around the time I got weaned. Maybe YOU would like to do a survey of our group asking "Who has dairy product intolerance?" ??? Sincerely, Dietmar At 08:59 AM 10/22/97 -0400, you wrote: >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >SCD MAILING LIST >------------------------------------------------------------------- >I also seem to contract less colds/flu then people around me. >However, when I was younger (up to age 17) I had constant allergies, asthma, etc and always seemed to be catching a cold or at least blowing my nose. All of these systems subsided (no asthma sprays, no allergy shots, no more raising the stock prices of Kleenex) when I stopped drinking milk (used to drink close to 1 gallon/day) and avoided cheese (there are many amazing pizza places in my area). However, these diet modifications were a response to being diagnosed w/ UC. > >-Raman > > > > > ~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ D. Hartl RMT Specialist in: Orthopaedic Assessment - Tactile Therapies - Pain Solutions White Rock, British Columbia ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 14:29:59 -0700 From: painsolv@smartt.com To: SCD-list@longisland.com Subject: Re: aol - cut and paste Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19971022142959.006a5000@smartt.com> To all you AOL'ers out there: WHY are you with a mega-corp who provides lousy service at a rip-off price? Have you ever checked in your local computer magazine for a local, smaller, lower-priced, personal-service, easy-access ISP (Internet Service Provider)? I just can't figure out why AOL even has any more customers! The Net is bigger than the tiny window you get through AOL! You might find it worth your while to expand your horizons! Best wishes, At 02:22 PM 10/22/97 -0400, you wrote: >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >SCD MAILING LIST >------------------------------------------------------------------- >Simone - > >i cant cut and paste on aol either. i have been checking this out. i can only >do it once and i dont know where the rest of the copy goes. > >Joan > >ps there is somewhere you can post a note to aol and someone who knows will >email you. if you find out let me know > > > ------------------------------ End of SCD-list V1 #77 **********************
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